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As to the cast: Evans is spot-on, it's the clever and slightly seedy rich boy from the books, with enough of Evans' personal charisma to make you want more of him.So far Bruhl hasn't impressed me, he seems lifeless. But he's been so good in other things that I'm not going to write him off, maybe he'll get Dr. Kreizler to grow on us.Fanning is completely and totally off the mark. The Sara of the book was a smart, tough, daring, fearless, fiercely feminist adult woman in the books. And Fanning plays her as a insecure little girl trying to act tough. By Anonymousreply 42. quote I thought Luke and Daniel Bruhl had great chemistryI agree.
And now I understand why Luke was cast as John Moore. He's a quirky nice guy, which suits Luke's personality. Bruhl is more serious and methodical, which suits his character, as well.
Luke is perfect as Bruhl's sidekick.As for Dakota, she is absolutely wrong for the part. Her acting ability is non-existent, and her accent is so wrong for the period. Completely unbelieveable.In fact, none of the younger actors are able to muster any sort of period accent. Neither Fanning, nor the Jewish brothers helping Kreizler in the investigation (although one of them is really cute), nor the younger kids playing the various parts in the movie. They're just so unbeileveable as 1896 New Yorkers.However, the story is very suspenseful, and I do like how they captured the grittiness of the era.So far, I'm not disappointed with the show, with the exception of the above mentioned issues.I'm curious as to who the killer will be.
I'm thinking the former police chief. When the reporter asked him how he's 'spending his time after retirement,' there was a brief pause before he answered. He's also very creepy. By Anonymousreply 57.
I found the premiere quite dull. Something is off about the show but I'm not quite sure what.
I liked Evans but I was a bit disappointed with Bruhl's character. And it's really the characters (not the actors) and the writing itself I'm having trouble with. Likewise with the cinematography and the music. Nothing seems very original, and the show's atmosphere is not as distinctive as one might have hoped. I'm not really sure what I'm watching.I read the novel over two decades ago and like someone mentioned there are certain homophobic elements involved. Especially right at the end. Then again it became apparent already in the premiere that the show itself is certainly not homophobic.
By Anonymousreply 61. I read the book a couple years back and was os looking forward to it. The Dakota character was actually a lot of fun in the book. Too bad someone decided to put Fanning in the role as she's nothing but dull and dullard.Also all the added brothel storyline involving the Luke character, I don't remember being so prominent in the book so it's just added to spice things up. I don't remember the book being homophobic although some characters were as they didn't want to investigate the murders of dress wearing boy prostitutes.But the author, Caleb Carr do have some issues as his dad, Lucien Carr, killed a man in 1944 and used the gay panic defense and got his charges reduced from murder to manslaughter.
Caleb Carr today vigorously disputed the fact that his dad was gay in a sexual relationship with the guy he killed. He's very defensive about the whole thing so it's clear he has issues with homosexuality so perhaps it comes through in the storyline. By Anonymousreply 66. R56, what scheduling problems? And you’re not wrong about the #metoo thing.After this book was written and it was a big hit, Carr was a writer or director on a short lived series about a family homesteading on some other planet. There was a young girl playing the family’s daughter on the set, very pretty and very young. Like 13-15.I read in the comments on some website that Carr had gone to her parents and said he loved her and would wait for her to be old enough to marry.
Supposedly the parents humored him in some way and played along. The show was cancelled after one season and it seemed like the network found out about this and pulled the plug. The girl continued to act and is an adult actress now. She’s not a big star and still very pretty, but she was incredibly beautiful as a young girl. That comment was later scrubbed BTW as this one may be.Later Carr said there had been a big fight about the Alienist, he had been trying to make it a movie but they basically wanted to cast it badly and make Sarah Howard the town bicycle for the cast. He was so angry they could never come to an agreement, it dragged on for years and finally the studio gave up.
He never would have wanted any of this cast. He must be livid.I noticed they are carefully not mentioning his name or even that he wrote the book in the promotional materials. In the early 2000’s Carr had botched surgery that ruined his health. My guess is he needs money and sold the rights outright.The girl is still an actress. Will she out him?
Maybe they paid her off so they could go ahead. Anyone with any curiosity must realize it’s very odd that they never mention the author in any interviews.Carrr’s father was one of the beatniks that hung around with Jack Kerouac back in the 50’s. The father and his wife were constantly drunk and on drugs. They ignored the kids and didn’t feed them.
Some of those guys molested their children. I don’t know about Carr but the father picked him out and abused him the most. He talked back and was beaten often. I think it’s likely he may have been sexually abused by someone in that group, if not his own father.
He hinted something like that went on in an old interview from years ago. A daughter of another beatnik in that group said her father molested her for years. All the parents were on hard drugs. I read an old comment once from somebody that knew the family. They said all the kids were screwed up but were nice people for the most part. Carr himself has a reputation for being very argumentative but means well.
He seems like an Aspie. By Anonymousreply 67.
The reason I know this stuff is because years ago Carr ran for city council or some such post in his small upstate NY hometown and lost. It got an article or two in The NY Times at the time.
I thought that was interesting and googled him to see if he won (he didn’t). But I stated getting hits about the above story.
I couldn’t believe it.Then I started googling his dad. He’s Lucien Carr, who murdered a man and got away with it by claiming the man had made a pass at him and he killed him in a “gay panic” defense, in 1944.
He weighted the body and threw it in the Hudson River.He served a very short sentence. The newspapers at the time made a big deal about how the victim was actually to blame by making a pass at a straight man, but later it was said the victim was probably not gay at all and Carr made it all up. Nobody knows why he really killed him.The more you read about this family and their circle of friends at that time (the Beats), the more you realize they were all screwed up and all their children suffered. I’m not old enough to remember the Beats, but they sound like some very fucked up and destructive people who were highly glamorized at the time. I know Caleb Carr and other children of the Beats have done numerous interviews saying they despised their parents. By Anonymousreply 68. Carr is (or was) one of those Aspie-type people that has problems keeping a girlfriend and was very retiring.
When he was a kid, he and his family would go to their grandparents’ farm every summer where the kids would get enough to eat. There was lots of room to run around and the parents were hungover and slept all day, so the kids loved it there.When the grandparents died, the next generation inherited the farm I believe. Carr built a house nearby, in the same small town. His relatives lived nearby, at least as of the early 2000’s. He is a historian and built the house the old fashioned way, even the nails were squared shaped like they were in the olden days.
He found an architect that specializes in building reproduction houses and had this very nice house built in the middle of nowhere. There was an article about it in the NY Times archive, although I don’t know if it’s still there.If you want to know what was going on in his life at the time, read the acknowledgements at the ends of his books. He thanked his doctors that helped him through a serious illness. Also read the dedications.
I think in one of his later books he thanked the young lady I mentioned at R67.I also read today he’s working on a sequel to the Alienist. By Anonymousreply 71. R71 Thank you for all of this info on Carr.I guess it makes sense that such a book filled with pain and anger and violence would come from someone who experienced it.
I certainly hope he has gotten some help.Carr has been working on that third book for decades. The Alienist series was always supposed to be a trilogy. The Alienist is told through the voice of John Moore. The Angel of Darkness through Stevie. And the third book (unwritten) is supposed to be through Sara's point of view.I hope some day we will get it. By Anonymousreply 72.
Thanks for the gossip on Carr, R-above!And yeah, I'm reading his 'Surrender, New York' right now (NOT impressed so far), and I'm not one bit surprised to hear he lives in small-town upstate NY. Among its other flaws, it absolutely drips with contempt for the small-town locals, who are described and shiftless and useless for generation after generation, and grossly inferior to the narrator's own illustrious and prosperous ancestors. I'd bet real money that Carr's neighbors hate him even more than he hates them, and with better cause.
By Anonymousreply 73. IIRC, he did go to therapy.If you recall, the premise of The Angel of Darkness was that women also aggressively committed murders and acts of violence. Carr’s theory was that they did it just as often as men, but society refused to admit it and cast women solely in the role of mothers and nurturers. It was common back then for men to take the rap for women attacking and killing their children or husband. It was said a man led the weak willed woman to do it. Carr’s Kreizler theorized that there were secretly child murdering women out there everywhere that had gotten away with it because they just couldn’t believe women would do that.I wondered if this was a commentary on his own mother standing by and letting her husband mistreat Carr and not leaving him or sending the kids to stay with their grandparents permanently.
Carr seemed to be exorcising some ghosts with that book after I read his bio. And books he wrote afterwards weren’t as good. It’s as if he had something very specific he had to write out and get rid of. I think the young street boy Stevie’s background might be him writing stuff out too.Carr himself looks a lot more like the book description of Kreizler than the actor they cast. Kreizler is described as having pale skin, long black hair, dressing in black and looking like a raven.R73, about Carr’s neighborhood, they have a small local paper that discusses local issues. No jobs, the local teens run wild destroying things, and there’s a lot of drug use.
I don’t think he’s exaggerating that part. By Anonymousreply 75. I suppose Carr's background would give him a lot more insight into the lives of 19th century poor children than most modern, civilized writers, or humans.Back then the children of the wealthy were coddled in nurseries and the children of the middle classes were carefully educated, but poor children were told to forget about schools and get full-time jobs before they were ten years old, and as likely as not to get out of the house and support themselves when they should have been in grace school. Others just ended up on the streets, where the age of consent was 12 or thereabouts, not that the corrupt NY police gave a rat's ass. Carr's second book was told from the POV of former urchin Stevie, and how kids like him had to grow up far too soon. Some of that was undoubtedly personal, not that Carr had to go out and get a full-time job when he was an abused little kid.
By Anonymousreply 81. R66 There was a lot of John Moore going to the brothels in the book, but, as the narrative was from his perspective, he didin't actually say it, rather the other characters referenced his 'evening outings'.R68 Lucien Carr, Caleb's father, is the main character portrayed by Dane Dehaan, in the film 'kill Your Darlings', which includes the gay panic and the murder.I always imagined Sara Howard as being dark haired, spunkier and more frustrated.I do like Legend of Tomorrow's former Hawkman as the the gay pimp/Paul Kelly (and what was that awful singing?!) by Anonymousreply 146.
quoteI always imagined Sara Howard as being dark haired, spunkier and more frustrated.I have not watched the series, as I do not get TNT, but I always pictured her looking like Jane Adams, from Relativity. I have now seen Dakota Fanning in a few pictures.
I do not understand how she has gotten work as an adult. She must have excellent technical skills.Jane Adams, Actress: Happiness. Jane Adams has performed theatre at the Seattle Repertory Theatre. The plays include 'Love Diatribe', 'The Nice and the Nasty', and 'Greetings From Elsewhere Cabaret'.
She also performed in 'Careless Love' at the Empty Space Theatre, 'Candide/Len Jenkin' at the Pioneer Square Theatre', 'Talking With' at the Group Theatre and 'Camino Real' at the Juilliard School. She won a Tony Award for best. By Anonymousreply 147. R161 NOT FAIR ACCORDING TO MYSTERY RULES. THERE ARE NO REAL CLUES TO BE FOLLOWED.SHIT.Celia.calm yourself! It's structured like italicThe Silence of the Lambs,/italic where an organization is profiling and honing in on a killer who's at large.
It doesn't have a surprise ending like some murder stories, where it's like, 'Oh my GOD.you mean all along, it was AUNT MABEL??' What made the book a success wasn't the plot, but the way it presented a very well researched olde New York. By Anonymousreply 163. The reveal of the killer is not really the point of the book, which is to study the beginnings of forensics in police work. The horror of the crimes is merely to keep the reader involved.
Now that so many shows are about forensics, this show comes off banal to avid watchers of the modern day dramas. The overuse of limited to no lighting makes the damn thing hard to watch, so the gore factor of the novel is gone. As a whole, it's a pretty costume drama with bland characters. By Anonymousreply 182. Yes, Roosevelt wanted to be the bride at every wedding and the corpse at every funeral, but in both the book and the show they show him preoccupied with a huge and hopeless task - trying to clean up the NYPD of the 1890s. Which he didn't stick at long; if I recall correctly, he got a lot of publicity for trying to fight corruption and basically used the job as a springboard into national politics. I think Carr was correct to show him as not too involved, from what I've read about the man he had enough of a moral sense to care about boy whores being killed (not guaranteed or a man of his class), but he wouldn't see any personal gain in being involved with something so sordid.
So yeah, he'd delegate.And yes, Fanning is terrible. She literally has no idea how to play a tough woman, she seems to think that looking extremely tense is enough. By Anonymousreply 189. I loved when the boy whore was talking to Kreizler and Moore in the alley, and after Kreizler paid him for the information, he walked past Moore and said, 'see you around.'
Luke's expressions everytime he gets propositioned or flirted with, by another guy, just cracks me up.And what's funny is that he's always getting propositioned. First by the gay guy in the jail who murdered his lover, and then by 'Sally' the boy whore. And he always acts repulsed, but you know he just loves it!
By Anonymousreply 193. To those whining that the main suspect isn't obvious, suspects never are in real life killings or realistic murder mysteries.In murder mysteries there's usually a small group of suspects, even if the author has to bend over backwards and create oddly isolated circumstances to keep the number if suspects down, it's a cliche of the genre. In realistic stories, the murderer could be anyone in New York. I give Carr credit for doing his story the hard way, and giving his detectives no limit on who to suspect. By Anonymousreply 201.
So is the rich guy with the mean mother and father the real killer?Or is it just a red herring?I'd be happy if silver mouth was a real killer, because then that part will be resolved, and I can just focus on the main characters and see if they come to some sort of resolution of their 'issues.' You guys bring up an interesting point about the dynamic between John and Laszlo, and I wonder if sexuality is going to play any part in the outcome of this series. I doubt it, but it would be interesting. By Anonymousreply 227. So at Evans is the only one who's delivering a good performances. He's doing what really good actors, putting in little looks or actions that make his character more likeable and the series more fun; he's improving scenes without changing a word of dialogue!I'm very disappointed in Bruhl.
He's been that good in other films, and he isn't here. And Fanning, is terrible, and none of the other actors are making an impact. So I hope this does wonders for Evans's career, I do like watching him and he's carrying the series single-handedly.
By Anonymousreply 229. The casting with the exception of ‘it puts the lotion in the basket’ and ‘man raped by the boy whores’ is horrible. It seems the whole point of the Jewish twin police officers is for them to run around town and one of the brothers to graphically fuck a shiksa. One of the brothers sounds very modern and the other (shiksa fucker) kind of has a Jewish accent. Not knowing how these thing work, couldn’t the director advise the actors on their accents?
It’s like they blew the budget on sets and costumes and had nothing left for a dialect coach. By Anonymousreply 244. quote One of the brothers sounds very modern and the other (shiksa fucker) kind of has a Jewish accent.If I'm not mistaken, they're supposed to be fraternal twins, which makes it even worse.quote couldn’t the director advise the actors on their accents?
It’s like they blew the budget on sets and costumes and had nothing left for a dialect coachIt's all of the Millennial actors. They couldn't do an accent to save their lives. They still sound like they're from 2018. By Anonymousreply 245.
'It's all of the Millennial actors. They couldn't do an accent to save their lives.
They still sound like they're from 2018. 'American actors have been shitty at accents since the beginning of sound films, if not earlier! I hope the theater actors o the 20th century were better at accents and historical portrayals than film actors, because film actors have always sucked at both. Clark Gable was always Clark Gable to matter what era or nationality he was supposed to be, same for 90% of the major American actors who've ever been filmed.So yeah, this is not a new problem. By Anonymousreply 253. quote Kreizler is all about science but can't handle close adult relationships or his own emotions, this is why he asked those off the wall questions of his friends as he has no clue. He has Asperger's, bordering on genius.Funny you mention this, because that's exactly how Daniel Bruhl plays the character, in my opinion.I didn't read the book, but without any prior knowledge of what you wrote, that is the Kreizler I'm seeing on the show.So it is a testament to Bruhl's acting ability, that's he's pretty spot-on in his portrayal of Kreizler.
By Anonymousreply 262. quote his exclamations of disgust and revulsion, that are so hilarious.I notice that too but I really enjoy watching him. I wonder if it's because he's trying so hard to sound 'American'. I also find Bruehl having difficulty speaking like an American, his German accent comes through. Of course, Dakota and the American actor playing Roosevelt sound much more natural than the European actors.Here is one of my favorite scenes and Luke is doing one of his Dr McCoy impressions.
I love Dakota's reaction to Lazlo's inappropriate questions.Watch The Alienist Mondays at 9/8c! SUBSCRIBE: Download the TNT App: About The Alienist: The Alienist is an.
By Anonymousreply 268. I’m just researching my Grandpa Otto, please don’t hate me; but anyway, he was hoofing-it around the Bronx and Manhattan at this time. The other side of my family was in Brooklyn. So, I’m watching it through their eyes, I am imagining.One thing I noticed.
In the parlor game of murder (episode 2, I think), two jovial players “die” and fall on the floor in jest. Laughs all around, such good sports. Except, all their shoes and the bottom of all the gall’s dresses would have horse manure on them. Nobody would lay on the floor like that, on purpose, as a joke.I recoil, as if from a flame!
By Anonymousreply 289. If you’re interested b the sets, there are a bunch of short behind the scenes clips on On Demand about the sets, another is about the costumes, the era, etc. They really did a lot of promotional material for this.The Angel of Darkness has another interesting character, Stevie’s thirteen year old burny-sniffing (cokehead) prostitute girlfriend.
She makes him look like a nun.The main story is about a widowed Frau, respectable and stodgy. Tragically, her child dies.
Then, she becomes a private nurse and tragically, the child she cares for in a private home dies. Then.You get the picture. She is so caring and devoted!
So respectable! It must be a series of unfortunate events! Poor unlucky, tragic, motherly woman!They spend that one trying to prove this poor, innocent, respectable matron, is anything but.The Angel of Darkness has a lot of heart. I’d like to see them do that one.
By Anonymousreply 322. I think DANIEL Bruhl is spot on as an arrogant, impetuous doctor.I agree and think he's a lot sexier than Luke's character. Maybe because his character is more fascinating, brilliant and unpredictable. Also, Luke Evans looks a lot older even though both actors are almost the same age; Evans has all these wrinkles from so much sunbathing!Dakota has more chemistry with the doctor than with Evans. Her character and the doctor are equal in intellect and appear intrigued by this.
By Anonymousreply 325. R299 I don't agree.
I thought Moore's flirting with Sara in the last episode was very charming and I think they have good chemistry. Not saying I'd necessarily want them to end up together but it wouldn't be terrible. Moore seems like he's a sensitive person, yes with some issues, but he comes across as probably the most sensitive character of the main ones. Makes for an interesting dynamic - where the man is the more 'delicate' than the woman, kind of a little flip on gender roles. I like Bruhl as Kriezler but I mind games are NOT what you want for a romantic relationship on. Even if she calls him out on it, it's still what he does very frequently.
By Anonymousreply 331. quote Daniel Bruhl is amazing in this. He is perfect as repressed individual.Agree, about Bruhl. His character uses his friends' histories to explore motive but he refuses to indulge his own. I loved that scene where he had a pissy tantrum at Sarah's theory of a negative female influence. The next episode explores his background and what really happened to his arm.Watch The Alienist Mondays at 9/8c! SUBSCRIBE: Download the TNT App: About The Alienist: The Alienist is an.
By Anonymousreply 349. I hope they have a second season and do the book sequel called Angel of Darkness.The reason I like this series so much (and The Knick) is that the stories are based in the late 19th and early 20th century in America. I've seen plenty of movies and series set in England during this period countless of times and it's not as interesting anymore. This period in America was an exciting period- the industrial revolution, the medical and scientific discoveries and the reform movement, the rising power of a young country- has not been explored enough in movies or television.
By Anonymousreply 350. The best scene was Connor following the Silver pervert and all three walking up the Brooklyn Bridge in a slant while NYC twinkles beneath them. ( I've never been to NYC so I assume this is when they constructed the bridge, alert me if I'm wrong.) The guy who plays Connor is so good because he's downright evil, like a Trump Deplorable.Overall, the production of this series is amazing- the bridge scene and the one in the park.
I was in Budapest in the summer and I recognize some outer exteriors they used. By Anonymousreply 376.
I wonder what Kreizler is hiding?At first I was thinking that he stole the 'Laszlo Kreizler' identity from someone else, which is why he had the congenital birth defect, but the guy in the newspaper did not.But then I realized he actually did know how to play the piano, so I guess it just means that someone hurt him when he was older. Perhaps his father?Also, the look that he gave the homeless children sleeping on the street, must have meant something towards the plot. Could he have been homeless himself? It's all so confusing.It did get me thinking, though, of the deplorable conditions that children must have endured in those days.Aside from being forced into child labor, they were probably also made to be prostitutes, and many of them were probably cast on the streets by poor parents who couldn't afford to take care of them.It really must have been awful for kids who weren't born into privilege. By Anonymousreply 390. quote Were boy whorehouses really so open and accepted in the late 1800's?Yes, in fact, there really was a gay nightclub/whorehouse called The Slide.Sex, vice, prostitution was rampant from 1850-1920 and NYC was the biggest whorehouse in the nation. Here is a really good web-site that examines the history behind The Alienist.
Orphaned children ran wild in the streets, they didn't have welfare or any social programs for the poor so children and even soldiers turned to prostitution.HISTORY BEHIND THE SCENE What’s the real story behind that historical scene from your favorite TV show or feature film? By Anonymousreply 414. quoteR143 Were boy whorehouses really so open and accepted in the late 1800's? The show makes it seem as though they were as normal as regular brothels.No. They were raided and the attendees prosecuted if they didn't buy someone off.
You were sent to prison for gay acts.It's also pretty sill when they show the boy whores out on the street in drag. It's not like you could just walk around back then, crossdressing. At the very least, people on the street would be outraged.
If they didn't beat you to a pulp. By Anonymousreply 415. The producers have been playing a little trick with us.When they first showed Willem in the pool watching the boys, they showed just his eyes and profile, and I swear it was Luke Evans' eyes and profile, which I assume was to throw us off.Now they did the same thing with the real killer in the whorehouse.When he was talking to Stevie, they only showed his profile, which was a scruffy beard, and I swear it looks like Kreizler's profile!Am I crazy, or are they really doing this? By Anonymousreply 429. quoteR421 That slutty little boy whore was hilarious. I think that he was the one that got offed at the Statue of Liberty. He went straight for the hottest guy in the room, aka the young Detective Sergeant.'
Buy us a bottle of champagne?' / 'How old would you like (me to be)?' / 'Lets go upstairs.' .What a dirty little slut!How very dare you.
The poor little urchin just wants to make some money! He probably gets a commission on each bottle of champagne he sells, and surely for each customer he brings upstairs. He would most likely prefer to be playing ball in the street: ( by Anonymousreply 438. I had to watch it again.
I am now thinking that the guy Marcus was chasing isn't the killer. How can he go back into the club and pick up Rosie, then go across the street, run to the top of the roof, hit Cyrus on his way to the Statue of Liberty? He would have to be Flash, the fastest human on Earth.Remember when Moore said, 'Unless,' at the very end of the episode? He's looking at an open window at the Slide which is opposite the building where Cyrus was hit. He didn't finish his sentence so maybe he meant 'unless he's not the killer'. The killer may have been watching them from that window and took his chance when everyone got distracted. By Anonymousreply 466.
R472, it makes sense that Kriezler is ‘mean’ to Moore; he is completely jealous of him, his position, his looks. You can sense the secret delight in Kriezler when he tells Moore that he is merely handsome and useless, or at least that’s what Sara thinks of him. He, as a psychologist, knows Moore is a conflicted and insecure person, and that this assessment would wound.R480, he always speaks of getting into the killers mind, and I think he was trying to glean from the experience of stabbing. By Anonymousreply 481. quoteAnd for those who have read it- is John Moore in it? No other spoilers, please!Yes, he’s in it. I hope they make the sequel book too.
Different story but arguably a more interesting one.I’ve read and reread both books over the years so they’re still pretty fresh in my memory.SPOILERS. I guess. Cyrus’s niece is entirely an invention of the show. I guess they felt they had to address Kriezler employing a black man through our modern lens but there’s more backstory to all of his employees in the book.
Kriezler met Cyrus, Mary, and Steve while serving as an expert witness in their various criminal trials; all were without family or means. He took them on as employees but they are much more like a family in the books.
By Anonymousreply 484. I think I followed tonight's episode but tell me if I'm wrong- Japheth (sp?) Dury killed his preacher father and overbearing mother and the guy who raped him-George something (I forgot). Then changed his name to John same-last-name-as-his-rapist, joined the army, stabbed a kid to death in Chicago (and had a boner while doing so), got discharged and sent to the mental hospital in DC. And then he was released from there? Or did he escape?But he went to NYC and started killing boys.
Cutting off their hands and taking out the eyes like the Indians, whom he hated because his mom told him he was one of their bastards. Or does he like/respect the native Americans b/c he hated his mom and identified with them? Actually, he probably just copied the pictures his father used to show him.Regardless, it was neat to see everyone figure out who this guy is. By Anonymousreply 514. I broke up with THE ALIENIST.It was coming for a while; it got stale.
I though Sean Young would save our relationship. She didn't.The whole thing became a mockery and I am moving on. I can see where it's going and it isn't pretty.
Now, with a few weeks distance, it doesn't hurt any more. I occassionally wonder what's going on with him, but he's better for someone else. I GAVE HIM SO MANY CHANCES.It just stopped working.And looking back, honestly, it italicnever/italic worked. By Anonymousreply 534. QUOTE R557 So is it Spring time, Summer time, or Fall, or what? Last episode when they went upstate, the leaves were changing colors, which implies Fall. This episode, the kids are playing in the streets with the fire hydrants and water, implying Summer.
But the holidays they are circling on the calendar are all taking place in Spring. Can the show really be this careless with the details?I think that the production is pretty clear on the dates as all of the murders take place on Christian feast days. This week's murder was on The Feast of Saint Barnabas which is June the 11th, in Summer. They are at great pains to point out the date in every episode.Pretty certain that the events occur over several years not just one, so you will see Spring,Summer, Fall and Winter.
By Anonymousreply 562. Book readers- did Mary die in the book? Was there a Joseph character? Any good subplots left out or major changes for the show?I thought this was a good miniseries. Maybe 'slow' for some people, but it looked great and had an interesting plot. Plus I greatly enjoyed seeing Luke Evans.
The finale could've been maybe ten minutes longer- it felt a little rushed at he end for me. I'm glad Sara and John didn't end up engaged or together.I'd love to have another season.
By Anonymousreply 580. What was wonderful about the books was the great detail they went into about NYC at the time. The majority of the first book takes place in the east Village, Astor Place and Union Square areas. So many of the buildings that are in the books still exist.
I went and searched them out. The sequel takes place in the West Village. So much detail, I lived on West 11th street at the West Side Highway and my block was in the book. It made it so real to me.
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The area was very rough in the 19th century. It consisted of warehouses, prisons, saloons and brothels.
There was a railroad along the west side highway back then. If the rich people living in those brownstones only knew that whores walked the halls over a 100 years ago!
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